thank you for joining us. i hear the arguments, but there was a federal salary council that came out and said no, no, federal employees are underpaid by 35%. they were not even close. >> is the age-old question because it seems every month, every year we have somebody coming forward saying look at these poor federal workers, so underpaid, we have t had to do something for them. what we see looking at a lot of the data is exactly what you mentioned. don'they don't take into account this generous full conversatio n package a lot of workers had. on average they had federal workers being paid 30 to 40% more than the average private sector worker and you adding to effect all the benefits. that is something we have been looking at taco wha top of whats happening the fiscal cliff in the american government and whether we will be fiscally solvent in a few years. this is a kind of spending that goes unchecked because people don't want to do an apples to apples comparison with the private sector and public workforce. it